Summary of VSC discussions on 24.09.2014

Dear all,

           Wednesday evening (24.09.2014) we had our study circle discussions. We started by chanting Shantimantra and Acharya Upadesha. Then we sang the devotional song ‘Murtamaheswara…’. After this, we continued reading of the book ‘Life of Swami Vivekananda‘, Chapter 13 – The itinerant days: The northern tirthas. After meeting Pavhari Baba, Swamiji was eager to learn from him the yoga for attainment of The Ultimate Reality. But the Babaji showed no disposition to pass on the knowledge for which Swamiji craved.Swamiji was becoming restless day by day, immersing himself more and more into spiritual sadhanas for the attainment of samadhi. But he had forgotten what his Master had told him, “You have now tasted the highest realization. For the present it shall be kept locked up and the key shall be with me. You have work to do. When you have finished that, you will enter into this samadhi without a break.” But in his intense eagerness and longing to learn the yoga from Pavhari Baba, he decide to get initiated by him. This did not go well with some of his brother disciples who considered it as disloyalty to Shri Ramakrishna. However, Swamiji’s motto was clear: to learn Raja Yoga from Pavhari Baba.  However, just before he got initiated, he got a vision of Shri Ramakrishna, who looked intensely into his eyes, without a word. Many times Swamiji had decided to continue and get initiated, but everytime he had the same vision of Shri Ramakrishna. It was not long before he understood that his Master was the fulfillment of spirituality, and a soul blessed by Him required no other spiritual help. He was filled with self reproach. Very soon, he left Varanasi and decided against going to any other saint for help. His love and devotion for Shri Ramakrishnaincreased many folds. His mind was no longer distracted, and was able to give himself over to single minded devotion.
         We also discussed about:
(a) Pranayam and its effects: from our own experiences?
(b) What are the difficulties in Jnana Yoga and its difference with Bhakti Yoga?
(c) What are the characteristics of a Bhakta?
 
We also listened to an audio lecture on Bhakti Yoga. We ended the class by chanting the Shantimantra ‘Priyatam pundarikashaha...’. We look forward to your presence next Wednesday.

Summary of VSC discussions on 17.09.2014

Dear all,

           Wednesday evening (17.09.2014) we had our study circle discussions. We started by chanting Shantimantra, Acharya Upadesha and Durga Shuktam. Then we sang the devotional song ‘Murtamaheswara…’. After this, we continued reading of the book ‘Life of Swami Vivekananda‘, Chapter 13 – The itinerant days: The northern tirthas. Swamiji went to Varanasi first, where he met Pramadadas Babu, a great Sanskrit scholar, and with whom Swamiji had many discussions in later life regarding Sanskrit scriptures. From Varanasi, he visited Ayodhya, Lucknow, Agra, Vrindavan. On his way to Haridwar, he met Sharat Chandra Gupta, who was initiated by Swamiji, and who later joined the Baranagore Math as Swami Sadananda. However, these pilgrimages by Swamiji were marked with many obstacles. Sometimes he or his brother disciples fell ill. But his heart always longed for this wandering life of a monk. This portion also describes the meeting of Swamiji with Pavhari Baba, the famous saint of Ghazipur. Pavhari Baba spent most of his time in meditation and austerities. His daily diet consisted of a handful of bitter nimba leaves or a few pods of red pepper only, and hence the name ‘Pavhari Baba’ , meaning ‘air eating father’. Swamiji was greatly struck by his personality and later wrote about Pavhari Baba: “A great sage, indeed. It is all very wonderful, and in this atheistic age, a towering representation of marvelous power born of Bhakti and Yoga. I have sought refuge in his grace, and he has given me hope – a thing very few are fortunate enough to get.”
         We also discussed about:
(a) What does the Shastras say about inter-class marriage, i.e. marriage between Brahmanas, Kshatriyas, Vaishyas and Sudras?
(b) Story of King Vikramaditya
(c) Imbalance in society due to selection of profession based on monetary benefits rather than our Gunas.
 
(d) Why is it necessary to preserve anything that has evolved organically?
(e) Is Indian culture synonymous with Hindu culture?
(f) Does diversity lead to conflict?
We ended the class by chanting the ShantimantraPriyatam pundarikashaha...’. We look forward to your presence next Wednesday.

National Youth Day 2014 – Details on Poster and Elocution Competitions.

 Vivekananda Study Circle is celebrating the National Youth Day in 2014 commemorating the Jayanti (date of birth) of Swami Vivekananda over the course of one week (Jan. 11 – Jan. 17) with a number of events. One of the initiatives taken this time around is the organisation of poster and vivekananda11.jpgelocution competitions related to Swamiji. Please see this document – Swami Vivekananda Poster and Elocution competitions – for all details regarding these competitions.

The complete details of the Jayanti celebrations, with all the details of the programme, will be uploaded soon.

Greetings,
Prasad.
(On behalf of Vivekananda Study Circle).

Today’s discussion

Some points from today’s VSC discussion:

  • Quotes from “Letters …”
    • “Skilful management lies in giving every man work after his own heart.”
  • Meaning of “पूर्णमदः पूर्णमिदं …”—पूर्ण means unlimited or infinite.
    • पूर्णमदः (ईश्वर is पूर्ण) पूर्णमिदं (जीव and जगत् are पूर्ण)
      पूर्णात् (from ईश्वर) पूर्णमुदच्यते (जीव and जगत् have manifested) ।
      पूर्णस्य (from ईश्वर-जीव-जगत्) पूर्णमादाय (if we remove चैतन्य/Consciousness)
      पूर्णमेवावशिष्यते (चैतन्य alone remains, i.e. ईश्वर-जीव-जगत् have no existence apart from चैतन्य)  ।।
    • ईश्वर-जीव-जगत् is like the snake, and चैतन्य is like the rope.
    • The first line describes the द्वैत दर्शन; first that should be understood. Then, one should understand the second line which describes the अद्वैत दर्शन.
    • A detailed exposition by Swami Dayananda Saraswathi can be found here.
  • Types of आनन्द
    • विषयानन्द
      • derived from the five sense faculties.
      • this requires contact with the इन्द्रिय ‘s.
      • the happiness derived from the contact decreases each time
      • repeated contact reduces the capacity for आनन्द.
    • भजनानन्द
      • derived from the mind and intellect.
      • initial contact does not give आनन्द; needs a training/tuning phase during which the mind gets refined.
      • after the mind is trained, even a short contact/mild stimulus, or even thinking about it brings आनन्द.
      • due the refinement, it is possible for a mild stimulus to cause great दुःख too.
    • आत्मानन्द
      • no external input needed for आनन्द.
      • the आनन्द does not decrease over time.
      • there is no possibility of pain.
    • Use भजनानन्द to move away from विषयानन्द, and then aim for आत्मानन्द.
    • Some notes on this topic from Swami Paramarthanandaji’s lecture can be found here.
  • What should be the attitude of a साधक towards जीव-जगत्-ईश्वर?
    • towards जीव—ज्ञान (“I want to know myself”), through ज्ञानयोग.
    • towards जगत्—वैराग्य, through कर्मयोग.
    • towards ईश्वर—भक्ति, through भक्तियोग.
    • improvement in any one of these attitudes will automatically improve the other two.
    • उपासनयोग is useful in all three above.
      • Refer Swami Paramarthanandaji’s lectures on meditation.
  • Why is ब्रह्मन् called सच्चिदानन्द?
    • the mind sees properties (red/green, soft/hard, etc.), objects, and limitedness. To go beyond these and know ब्रह्मन्, the mind is pointed to सत् (the substance behind the properties), चित् (the subject seeing the objects), and आनन्द/अनन्त (that which is unlimited).

धर्म as a पुरुषार्थ

We discussed the meaning of धर्म and how it fits into the पुरुषार्थ framework.

  • धर्म is that which protects and sustains.
    • It is a set of restrictions imposed on one’s own pursuit of अर्थ (security) and काम (comfort) so that
      • another’s pursuit of अर्थ and काम is not affected.
      • my own pursuit of अर्थ and काम in the future is not affected.
    • In concrete terms, धर्म is achieved by following सत्य, अहिंसा, अस्तेय, ब्रह्मचर्य, and अपरिग्रह (non-lying, non-injury, non-stealing, proper attitude towards opposite gender, and non-hoarding).
  • पुरुषार्थ means a goal which cannot be questioned (one cannot as “Why do you want this?”). Why is धर्म a पुरुषार्थ?
    • Because only धर्म gives peace of mind, which is lost due to the insecurity that comes from unsustainable actions.
    • Initially, धर्म is a साधनपुरुषार्थ (means), and अर्थ-काम are साध्यपुरुषार्थ ‘s (ends). In other words, the person at this initial stage seeks to achieve security and comforts for oneself and one’s family in life, and therefore uses the Dharma as a means to achieve these artha and kaama ends.
    • Slowly, one understands that धर्म is a साधनपुरुषर्थ and मोक्ष is a साध्यपुरुषार्थ. At this stage, the individual understands that depending upon अर्थ and काम ends for one’s security, peace and happiness is a fundamentally misplaced pursuit, since such a pursuit of अर्थ and काम through objects are fraught with problems like insatiability, inability to deliver what is being promised, addictive behaviour, etc. Therefore, having faith in the words of the शास्त्र and the आचार्य’s who seem to be verily secure and peaceful, the individual begins a life of कर्म-योग where he/she does his/her धर्म as a offering towards ईश्वर, and seeks ईश्वर or मोक्ष as the goal.
    • Finally, one understands that मोक्ष is not a साध्य, rather it is नित्यसिद्ध (never-lost). In other words, the individual understands that his own nature as the ever-liberated आत्मा, and does his/her धर्म purely as a duty without any necessity to derive anything, even ईश्वर’s grace for it]. Then, धर्म becomes a साध्यपुरुषार्थ. It becomes an end in itself, not a means to achieve anything else, done for some purpose other than itself.

Neale Donald Walsch

(from Prasad)
Some of the first spiritual books which I read were written by one Neale Donald Walsch. I continue to hold them as one of the most beautiful and lovable presentations of VedAntic concepts outside of traditional VedAntic circles.

Here’s his back-story from Wiki:

“In the early 1990s he[Neale] suffered a series of crushing blows—a fire that destroyed all of his belongings, the break-up of his marriage, and a car accident that left him with a broken neck. Once recovered, but alone and unemployed, he was forced to live in a tent in Jackson Hot Springs, just outside Ashland, Oregon, collecting and recycling aluminium cans in order to eat. At the time, he thought his life had come to an end. Despondent, he began his writings after working his way out of homelessness and following a stint as a radio talk show host.”

Wiki doesn’t complete the story with the bang its supposed to ;). According to Neale, this is what happened.

After hitting rock-bottom in emotional/physical/material life, Neale sat up at 4AM one day, writing on a yellow-pad an angry letter to God,
-WHAT DOES IT TAKE… TO MAKE LIFE WORK?
and other such questions.

He began to hear a ‘voiceless voice’ in his head, which said.
– Do you really want answers to all of these questions, or are you just venting?

to which he said (or thought, perhaps)
– well, I am venting, but if you’ve got answers, I’d like know what they are.

And so the “Conversations with God” series and the books that followed came out of a dialogue which ensued between these two voices, one belonging to Neale’s, and another to what he called was his Bigger Self or God. A transcript of one of his interviews about his personal journey is here – http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~zechner/cwg/lkl-ndw.html.

Here is an interview with Neale, where he answers some questions raised about him and his books on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LjAno8FwOPY#! . We talked about this in yesterday’s study circle.

Advaita Jnaana and Love

(from Prasad)

Yesterday there was a discussion upon the ideas of Advaita Jnaana and Love. I was reminded of this video of Swami Dayanandaji discussing a question – “What is the concept of the phrase “God is love” ? ” . It comes at the end of the first of the following two videos (around 28 mins and later) and at the beginning of the second video.


 

Connection between sorrow and Self-ignorance (An elaboration from Naishkarmya Siddhi)

The Naishkarmya Siddhi written by Sri Sureshwaracharya is a scripture which establishes Advaita as the ultimate teaching of the Veda by refuting arguments of some of the chief opponents in the Achaarya’s time. Herein is an article about the connection between sorrow and self-ignorance outlined in the Naishkarmya Siddhi based on the wonderful lectures of Swami Paramaarthanandaji.

In the introductory verses to this text, the Acharya establishes that the only cause for suffering in all individuals is the lack of knowledge about one’s own real nature (Atma ajnaanam). Based on the Veda as a means of knowledge about Dharma and about the Atma, the Achaarya gives a step-by-step analysis of suffering and its causes and ultimately arrives at Atma ajnaanam (self ignorance) as the root of the problem.
Once the seeker understands the gravity of the situation, he or she does not merely undertake the quest to know oneself as a mere intellectual pursuit. Since the entirety of the emotional distress faced by oneself is what is at stake here, the desire to know oneself springs forth with as much vigour and keeps the seeker on the quest until the knowledge of the Atman is gained, at which point there is complete freedom from all kinds of emotional distress, and a supreme tranquillity ensues, which itself is called Moksha.

Abstract

Every being in the universe has sorrow, and every being acts in an attempt to rid itself of sorrow. However, it is our common experience that, in spite of all our actions, sorrow remains. So, it appears that we do not clearly understand the cause of the problem, and hence are not able to solve it effectively.

Vedanta says that the cause of sorrow is ignorance of the real nature of my Self. Hence, the solution (also provided by Vedanta) is to know my real nature. If I can accept this claim, then my strategy is clear: Approach a competent teacher of Vedanta, gain the knowledge of the Self, understand my real nature, and be free from sorrow.

Gaining Self-knowledge is not easy, and there are several qualifications one must have, and several stages of sadhana one must go through. Sometimes I may lose enthusiasm, or doubt the goal (“Why am I doing this?”). However, I never have any doubt about my sorrow. Whenever I get sorrow, if I can clearly analyse it and see that the cause is always Self-ignorance, then the utility of solving the problem of ignorance by gaining Self-knowledge is reinforced in the mind. The value I attach to the goal stays high, and I work enthusiastically towards it.

Sureshvaracharya gives a 7-step analysis to show that the cause of every sorrow is Self-ignorance.

Connection between sorrow and Self-ignorance

  1. The cause for sorrow is identification with the body.
    • For example, in deep sleep, where there is no body-identification, there is no sorrow.
  2. The cause for body-identification is birth, caused by previous paapa-punya.
  3. The cause for the existence of previous paapa-punya is the generation of paapa-punya from each and every action, and its accumulation (by the Law of Karma).
  4. The cause for the generation of paapa-punya is desire (raaga-dvesha).
  5. The cause for desire is the assumption (adhyaasa) that some things/situations are favorable, and others are unfavorable.
  6. This adhyaasa is possibly only because I feel I am separate from the things/situations that I see as favorable or unfavorable (dvaita-bhava).
  7. I have dvaita-bhava (feeling of separateness or limitedness) because I do not know that my real nature is infinite (aananda).
    • With a little thought, it is easy to accept that I exist (sat), and that I am conscious (chit). But it is not easy to be able see myself as infinite (aananda).

For every sorrow that comes to me, I can do this analysis. As the conviction grows that Self-ignorance is the real culprit, my desire for the goal (Self-knowledge) and my interest and enthusiasm in the sadhanas should naturally increase.

Introduction to the text: 

The introductory statements (with a running translation) of the Naishkarmya Siddhi are as follows.

आब्रह्मस्तम्बपर्यन्तैः सर्वप्राणिभिः सर्वप्रकारस्यापि दुःखस्य
स्वरसत एव जिहासितत्वात् तन्निवृत्तर्था प्रवृत्तिरस्ति स्वरसत एव |

All embodied beings (Jivas), right from the Lord Brahma to a blade of grass (आब्रह्मस्तम्बपर्यन्तैः सर्वप्राणिभिः) possess the instinctive desire to give up sorrow and to gain fulfilment (सर्वप्रकारस्यापि दुःखस्य स्वरसत एव जिहासितत्वात्). Therefore, all such beings also naturally exhibit the activity of moving towards objects of pleasure and moving away from objects of pain (तन्निवृत्तर्था प्रवृत्तिरस्ति स्वरसत एव ).
The hierarchy of Sorrow or Duhkha is as follows.

  1. दुःखस्य च देहोपादान एक हेतुत्वात् 
    [The only cause of sorrow is the identification with body ]
  2. देहस्य च पुर्वोपचित धर्माधर्ममूलत्वात् अनुच्छित्तिः 
    [The presence of a body is caused by the accumulated Paapa and Punya karmaphala]
  3. तयोः च विहित प्रतिषिद्ध कर्ममूलत्वात अनिवृत्तिः 
    [The karmaphala themselves are caused by performance of dharmic and adharmic actions]
  4. कर्मणः च रागद्वेषास्पदत्वाद् 
    [Likes and dislikes are the root cause of actions] 
  5. रागद्वेषयोः च शोभन अशोभन अध्यास निबन्धनत्वाद् 
    [The notions of ‘favourability’ and ‘unfavourability’ towards people,objects,situations etc., lead to likes and dislikes]
  6. अध्यासस्य च अविचारितसिद्ध द्वैतवस्तु निमित्तत्वाद् 
    [The root cause of such misconceptions of added values to the world and its objects is the notion of separation of oneself from the world]
  7. द्वैतस्य च शुक्तिका रजतादिवत् सर्वस्यापि स्वतसिद्ध अद्वितीय आत्म अनवबोध मात्र उपादानत्वात् अव्यावृत्तिः 
    [The reason for the notion of duality or separation is the lack of knowledge about one’s real nature as the limitless Atman].

अतः सर्वानर्थहेतुः आत्म अनवबोधः एव |
[Therefore Self-ignorance is the cause of all sorrow]

Elaboration:
दुःखस्य च देहोपादान एक हेतुत्वात्
[The only cause of sorrow is the identification with body ]
It is natural that anyone who associates oneself (देहोपादान) with the physical (sthoola sharira) body or the mind (suksha sharira) feels that it is oneself that is suffering. The very nature of a body (शरीरं) is to change (शीर्यमानं). Another word signifying the body is “देहः”, which is also is derived as “त्रिविधैः तापैः दह्यते इति देहः” – that which suffers the threefold types of pain is called deha.(aadhyaatmika, aadhibhautika, aadhidhaivika – pains due to oneself, due to other living beings ,and due to the uncontrollable natural forces). 

Another way of arriving at this conclusion is by observing our experiences during the three states of experience, waking state (jaagrat), dream state (swapna) and deep-dreamless-sleep state (sushupti). In the waking state and the dream state, association with either the physical body or the subtle body (mind etc.) being present, suffering is experienced. In the deep-sleep state, with such identification being absent, suffering is not experienced. All people, whether most healthy or most unhealthy, report the same experience of sukham during deep sleep when there is no identification with the body-mind-sense complex.
Thus it is seen that suffering is inescapable as long as identification with a body continues, whether it is sthoola or sukshma.

देहस्य च पुर्वोपचित धर्माधर्ममूलत्वात् अनुच्छित्तिः
[The presence of a body is caused by the accumulated Paapa and Punya karmaphala]
Now a person might argue, does not the identification with the body end during the time of death? To that question, Sureshwaracharya explains that deha-sambandha (identification with a body) is caused by the karma-phalam (results of actions, both paapa and punya – धर्माधर्ममूलत्वात्) done during the previous human births (पुर्वोपचित), which are beginning-less  [Also may be noted: Moreover it is only the identification with the current physical body that is terminated during death, the identification with the sukshma sharira continues and is remanifested once a new physical body appears.]

तयोः च विहित प्रतिषिद्ध कर्ममूलत्वात अनिवृत्तिः
[The karmaphala themselves are caused by performance of dharmic and adharmic actions]
Now going one more layer down, Sureshwaracharya says that the accumulated compendium of karma-phala is caused by the performance of actions, those ordained by Shaashtra (विहित) and those prohibited (प्रतिषिद्ध) by Shaastra, which cause punya and paapa respectively. Therefore the jiva has to go through their results as long as he identifies himself with the sthoola/suksha shariras. The jiva can never hope to completely exhaust the karma-phala by enduring them, because of two reasons – (a) the magnitude of karma-phala compendium is extremely huge for each jiva (b) No jiva can remain without performing new actions, and thereby earning new karma phala.

कर्मणः च रागद्वेषास्पदत्वाद्
[Likes and dislikes are the root cause of actions]
The next question naturally arises – what is that which forces the jiva to perform new karma continuously? The answer given by Sureshwaracharya is attachment (रागः) and aversion (द्वेषः) towards the various things of the world, including the body-mind-sense complex.

रागद्वेषयोः च शोभनाशोभनाध्यास निबन्धनत्वाद्
[The notions of favourability and unfavourability towards people,objects,situations etc., lead to likes and dislikes]
What fosters attachment and aversion to objects? The Acharya explains – Adding non-existent value to things (शोभनाशोभनाध्यास = शोभन-अशोभन इति अध्यास), whether it is a positive value, which (seems to) increases one’s status, (शोभन) or a negative value, which (seems to) decrease one’s status (अशोभन) is the reason for having raaga or dvesha. The Acharya terms this addition of value as purely an erroneous notion (अध्यासः) because the conclusion of Vedanta is that the Atman, or the real nature of the Self, is intrinsically Purnah (complete and infinite). There is no question of either adding anything to it or removing anything from it.

अध्यासस्य च अविचारितसिद्ध द्वैतवस्तु निमित्तत्वाद्
[The root cause of such misconceptions of added values to the world and its objects is the notion of separation of oneself from the world]

Where-forth do the erroneous notions of favourability and unfavourability arise? The Acharya says that this notion is natural to anyone who sees a real duality between oneself and all other things (द्वैतवस्तु निमित्तत्वाद्). Just as a person who, for want of good light, erroneously assumes a real snake on a rope, naturally is afraid of the rope. Such a situation continues only as long as the person does not enquire into the reality of the snake one sees. In the same way, the reality of the externality of a world with respect to the Atman will disappear with Vedanta Vichara. Thus the Acharya calls the reality of the world as अविचारितसिद्धं, i.e., persisting only for so long as enquiry into the real nature of oneself is not completed.

द्वैतस्य च शुक्तिका रजतादिवत् सर्वस्यापि स्वतसिद्ध अद्वितीय आत्म अनवबोध मात्र उपादानत्वात् अव्यावृत्तिः
[The reason for the notion of duality or separation is the lack of knowledge about one’s real nature as the limitless Atman].
Finally, the Acharya reiterates that the real-duality between oneself and the world is the ignorance about one’s own real nature (आत्म अनवबोध मात्र उपादानत्वात् ). However a question may be raised, doesn’t everyone know oneself already? For that the Acharya answers that although it is obvious to everyone that one exists and that one is conscious (सर्वस्यापि स्वतसिद्ध), what is unknown is that the Atman is non-dual, limitless, infinite (अद्वितीय). Just as the illusion of a snake on a rope (or silver on a nacre) arises only because the rope (or the nacre) is known, but not completely or clearly.

अतः सर्वानर्थहेतुः आत्म अनवबोधः एव |
The notion of limitedness arising from this self-ignorance (आत्म अनवबोधः) is therefore (अत:)established as the only root cause of all kinds of suffering by all individuals (सर्वानर्थहेतुः).

This chain of cause and effect discussed above can never be broken in between. An attempt to do so might only temporarily suspend suffering, which springs up again once again because the root of the problem is not yet removed. Therefore it is necessary that one removes the root cause of Samsaara which is self-ignorance. This is possible only through Atma Vichaara under the guidance of a competent teacher. This Atma Vichaara, therefore, becomes the prime and singular duty of anyone who has diagnosed the problem of Samsaara as discussed above.

Aside

Some points that came up in yesterday’s discussion:

  • The karma kanda describes methods or sadhanas of achieving different goals or sadhyas (e.g. getting offspring, wealth, kingdom, etc.). The sadhyas can be of this world or laukika (e.g. getting offspring) or of other worlds or alaukika (e.g. attaining indraloka). The sadhanas are always alaukika, i.e. the methods (rituals) cannot be analyzed using the five senses (panchapramana / pratyaksha and anumaana pramaana – direct perception and inference) and proved to cause the desired goals.
  • A person is happier when he does not have a desire, than when he has one and it is fulfilled.
  • The purpose of serving people is not to help them; it is to help you get vairagya (by seeing their misery). You usually have to see some miseries in order to get vairagya; if you don’t see it in others, you will have to wait until you see it in yourself and then get vairagya.
  • On problems in life:
    • The goal of life is not to have a comfortable life.
    • The goal is to learn lessons and become wise. As long as you are a thinking person, no one can stop your progress.
  • On right and wrong
    • There is no right or wrong. Whatever you do, you will get the result. Accept this fact, watch the actions and results, and learn.
    • “Right” is that which gives long-term results that you like; “Wrong” is that which gives long-term results that you don’t like.
    • A thumb-rule: whatever is selfish is wrong; whatever is unselfish is right.
  • Three kinds of vairagya (lack of desire)
    • Ignorance: this is lost as soon as you know about the object of desire
    • Suppression: this is temporary, and the mind ultimately rebels and starts desiring, usually with greater force
    • Knowledge: (knowing the real worth of the object) this is permanent; this is real vairagya.

As many people, that many religions

(from Sonal)

Wednesday study circles abound in myriad dimensions in their spiritual appeal. Whatever aspect is taken up, it is sure to sway away the hearts and more so when these discussions become an inevitable part of one’s life at IISc. The new venue ie ‘Old Faculty Hall’ became instrumental in reverberating the vedic chants with much higher intensity probably because of its architecture.

The discussion paved way for revelation of new thoughts.It clarified the reason behind formation of different sects within a religion and the reasons of mutual conflict among them.
The nature of God is incomprehensible and so are the teachings of His incarnations. Avataras like Sri Krishna, Jesus Christ, Swami Ram Krishna Paramhnsa, Swami Vivekananda and many others possessed a personality that cannot be comprehended with limited average human understanding. Every incident of their life has big message to give to the society which demands practicing of severe discipline to attain that one aspect of His teachings.

So we can say that there can be innumerable aspects that society can learn from one deity. Each one pick these aspects according to thier own level of understanding of the situation and personal priorities. For example the ISCON faith considers the Vrindavan phase of Krishna’s life and propagates the ideas of Bhakti Yoga, some other institution can draw inspiration from Krishna in Warfare (thoughts of Geeta) and concentrate on Karma Yoga. Although both are following Krishna, but there is a difference in their approach which marks the formation of two different sects.

The teachings given by them may also differ according to the needs of the society. For example, Swami Vivekananda’s message to the West was renunciation of material wealth for spiritual quest because the western society was materialistically sound. However, Swamiji message to India was the upliftment of society, youth development, economic growth because it was the need of the hour of Indian society. So, teachings are context dependent and therefore may appear to be contradictory after a long phase of time in the absence of true knowledge.

Same was the case in Christianity which led to the formation of so many sects in Christianity as well. A book ‘Why we accept Christianity but not Churchianity’ , RKM publication can be read to delve deeper.

In the nutshell, different people acquire different aspects of teachings which they think are useful to them. But ultimately all teachings have emanated from the same source. So, there is no point of any contradiction. If these sects contradict amongst themselves in the name of their deity, it is purely out of limited understanding. Avataras are far beyond any institution. No institution can completely comprehend them. That is why it is said, ‘ As many people, that many religions’. It reminds me of a well known tale of blind persons groping to find the shape of an elephant and describing it in their own ways.

A thought that I am sure will bring a smile on your face……broadly the basic principles of all religions can be clubbed together without contradiction yet all religions can be divided into as many numbers as they have their followers. This is the beauty.